An opinion piece by the one and only Debbie "Blondie" Harry, right in time for Valentine's Day! LEBOWITZ: The first thing I would do is say, I dont care if New York avoided bankruptcy by substituting tourism for the garment business, which is what happened. Thats not writing. That never used to happen. I like people older than me and children, really little children. In time, she put herself on another path. LEBOWITZ: I drank my lifetime supply of alcohol and I took my lifetime supply of drugs between the ages of 15 and 19. When she was sixteen, her family interrupted her education, sending her to work as a nanny in New York. It reminds me of when a choreographer I know was creating a ballet. Ray Millands head was on Rosie Grier. Now I call up friends during the day and theyre writing. But I know a lot about them because its impossible not to. Well, perhaps, but I never really felt I belonged even in Antigua, even when I was little. I remember walking in the hot sun to one of the American bases in Antiguapast the crazy house, as we called the lunatic asylum, and the dead house, where the bodies of people who died in the hospital were put until they were collected by the undertakerto be interviewed by an American soldiers wife. High Times: Why did you smoke an ounce of marijuana in one day? I couldnt imagine knowing someone who was that funny. The Fran Lebowitz Reader. I mean, unless you have an erotic interest in them, what other interest could you have? When asked about the long delay in its delivery to her publisher, she explained that she only works on it on the side. . Everyone I know says, Fran is a Luddite, she doesnt have a computer. But I never had a typewriter. - 48-page book (text in German) covering the Exploding Plastic Inevitable, Andy Warhol, the Velvet Underground in film and a discography, with many b&w and colour photos. Lebowitz: I dont know if any inspire me. If I lived in another country, like a country that was, say, an enemy of the United States, I would be more amused than I am. There are more male writers who own guns than any other profession except police officers. And then, that machine is waiting for you, just humming uh-huh, yes?. Im not a nervous person. I styled myself to look like no one else. At one point, I dont know why I had this idea, but it was probably after Andy did those big MaosI had this idea to do this wallpaper of Mao, and we made this fake wallpaper. I always was. I Cover The Waterfront. I never had any skilled jobs because I never had any skills. I like Mel Brooks, especially the 2,000-year-old-man records with Carl Reiner. The Great Gildersleeve. But perhaps it makes senseI grew up in a place where I saw the sea every day and, near the end of my life, Im living in a place where the water has run out. Two rare items of Andy Warhol: 1) Pop goes art - Institut fr Popkultur - 1990 - Box - Contains several items: - Glossy folder of loose-leaf art-paper reproductions. For the movie review columns, I always knew exactly what I was going to write aboutthe movies. Used Planes comes out every single month. My first school punishment was sitting in the corner in kindergarten wearing a Band-Aid over my mouth and holding up a sign that said I am a chatterbox. That was my first run-in with authority. Alison Roman Dishes on Resy, Air Fryers, and Erewhon, The Gatekeepers of New Yorks Most Coveted Tables Tell All, Kathryn Newton and Paul Rudd on the Joys of Being Extra, Alex Cooper Calls Her Daddy Mel Ottenberg at the Prada Show in Milan. It was really a passion with me. Lebowitz spent the pandemic alone, at her own insistence, having turned down offers to lock down with wealthy friends at their Hamptons homes . I do remember that the worst movie I ever saw was called Four Flies on Gray Velvet, with Mimsy Farmer, one of your great loves. Did you find subject matter in your taxi rides? When I got to the hospital they did not believe that I had smoked marijuana, I was so smashed. Were you expected to criticize what was going on? I remember she wore her hair in a French roll, and she wore what they called a hobble skirt. I write so slowly that I could write in my own blood without hurting myself. I guess it didnt go. Im going out. Im the only person left who is this irresponsible. High Times: What was it like being a cab driver? Fran Lebowitz is a writer born on 27th October 1950 in Morristown, New Jersey, United States. He was the only one of us to break out into the big time, because he got a job on the first gay cruise ship. There are a lot of funny people around, and a lot of writers too, but somehow the combination of great humor and great writing has become an exceedingly rare commodity in the modern world. Thats what Id like to do. Her essays and topical interviews on subjects ranging from the difficulty of finding an acceptable apartment to the art of freeloading at weekend houses have come to be regarded as classics of literary humor and social observation. Amazon. Famously known to have sidestepped buying into browsing the Internet or even owning a computer, the iconic humorist doesn't - nor will she ever . Wielding a sharp pen in one hand and cigarette in another, Fran Lebowitz wrote for Andy Warhol's Interview magazine beginning in 1968; published two classic collections of tart, humorous essays Metropolitan Life (1978) and Social Studies (1981) and has ever since remained a fixture of the Manhattan social scene as a sort of critic without portfolio. The two close friends first came together for an HBO documentary Public Speaking in 2010, directed by Scorsese, which introduced Lebowitz to a new generation and helped established her continued relevance. CLEMENTE: But dont you love being in someone elses apartment, possibly someone you dont know well or know at all? He said theyd fix it. They have a fresh approach. Martin Scorsese and Fran Lebowitz are trying to remember how they met. Interview was then a film magazine, and it reviewed almost every film that was released. There is no such thing as inner peace. I had this aunt who had a book called The Night Visiters. Fran took on modern manners, aesthetics and culture the way William Buckley takes on liberalism. When it was on at 1:30 I saw no reason to get up in the morning, but now its on at 11:30, so sometimes I wake up to watch it. Im speaking to you from a priceless, one-of-a-kind chair. In fact, most of the offending language appears in the trailer alone. I know Ive said this before, but the audience for the artswhether it was for writing or films . Because if people dont hold grudges, it means they just dont care what people do.FRAN LEBOWITZ, LEBOWITZ: It was for The New York Times. Lebowitz: I had a parakeet when I was four called Polka Dotty, and I killed Polka Dotty by eating its food. Not just in school; I count on my fingers still. We Pick Up With Our Adventurers As The Party Begins. I remember what year that was. But its important who the president is. Because someone once told me that horses legs are actually like fingers and that their hooves are actually fingernails. You can see in it the sentimentality of Jane Eyre. I did not connect eating with staying alive, so I didnt think anything of eating the food. To celebrate, we're republishing Glenn O'Brien's interview with the living legend from the August, 1978 print edition of High Times. It was unavoidable. That's honestly, that's love.". I dont like to go out during the dayits too crowded. What youre supposed to have is, say, all Henry Jamess novels and the letters, which is more elegant. Too insubstantial. This is why I have problems with books, because you cannot do that the night before. My idea of pure hell. In clips of them talking on stage, Lebowitz looks uncharacteristically awestruck. I also have several writing habits necessitated by living in this apartment. Nowadays if I were to be homesick it would be for Vermont, which is strange. Gauloises, English Ovals, any cigarette that looked like it would annoy people. LEBOWITZ: This has happened to me my whole life. LEBOWITZ: I drove a cab. Directed by Martin Scorsese, it follows Lebowitz and Scorsese as they prowl New York City streets, museums and members clubs for conversations about the city. High Times: What was the first thing you wrote as a serious attempt to be a writer? Lebowitz: I was a behavior problem as far as talking. The idea wasnt that I would establish myself and then have the rest of my family join me. I would wake up and be so excited because I could smoke. The one I wrote myself was called House of Leather. Fran Lebowitz. 2. Fran Lebowitz has realised George Costanza is, in fact, an idiot. For two reasons: First of all, I stopped taking drugs when I was 19, and who wants to drive a cab around New York with drugs in their car? But it's a pleasurable one. I guess I could have gotten into driving school. There were times when my mother and I would go swimming and she would disappear for a second, and I would imagine the depths just rolling over her, that shed go deeper and deeper and Id never see her again . LEBOWITZ: It really depended. So he wasnt a surprise to me. And I always start writing very late at night. I said to my friends, 'He's going to make you long for de Blasio, [and] he was terrible,'" the author . He writes for the New Yorker. FRANCESCO CLEMENTE: After a certain age, in the early hours of the morning, the pressure drops, which is the reason why. High Times: Do you remember the first funny thing you ever said? I just talked too much. So we always have this fight, because I have a biography section, and he doesnt like that, because its so inelegant to have a biography section. I said, "Toni, the restaurant's five blocks away.". Nearby are a vegetable garden caged against wildlife and a cottage in which lives Trevor, her bearded young assistant. Karl Lagerfeld did this, I dont know what youd call it, this project, where he and his publishing company made this crate. LEBOWITZ: I only know how many there are because for the last several years Ive moved every five minutes, so theyre counted. If you can say 'I'll have that and a cup of coffee,' it's not art." 6. You're only as good as your last haircut. Tolerance is really a better thing than understanding. I also used to write a zillion songs. And as Fran took on polyester, landlords, press agents and pop psychology, her reputation grew. And with AIDS, a whole generation of gay men died practically all at once, within a couple of years. Lebowitz: Yes, but not with much zeal. The effect of AIDS was like a war in a minute country. Everyone was paid in cash. Theyre all right-wing nuts. Over some twenty years, Kincaid has made what my partner, the poet James Fenton, calls a plantsmans garden, full of rare species. Their consciousness is so different from ours that they constitute a different species. BUT.she has plenty to say and has absolutely no problem with verbal expression and is brutally honest. There were two funny ones that were real crowd pleasers when I used to read them. Lebowitz will appear on stage for four performances only . After I moved to New York, I modeled for people like Steven Meisel. All-around cultural oracle Fran Lebowitz really began her ascent to that pulpit here at Interview, in 1972, writing a wonderful column about terrible movies, and then covering the waterfront, as she called it: opining on sundry topics, giving advice, ranting, reflecting, and hooking the reading world (such as it is) on that voicethat saucy, No, youre not. I watched 400 Bayer aspirin commercials. Because it doesnt agitate against human nature. Polka Dotty ate seeds and celery tops, and my mother would give me Polka Dottys food, and I would go downstairs and eat it. The novel is reputedly about rich people who want to be artists, and artists who want to be rich people. 5. Lebowitz: Ive had a number of interesting, colorful jobs. Now, even if you have money, you can have a horrible apartment. Homesicknessthis kind of interrupted loveis a big element in your work. I never had any machines. It was the only thing I wanted to be except for a brief flirtation with wanting to be a cellist. One of which is that I strongly object to having more than one generation of a family being president. Like, this is the smart one, this is the pretty one. Fran Lebowitz, the writer, cultural critic, and professional raconteur, spoke with me over the phone via landline, as she famously doesn't own a cell phone or computer. I loved getting the measles and colds so I could sit on the couch and watch all those morning situation comedies. Not at all, because I was going as a servant. I mean, there are fewer good things than bad things. Lebowitz: To be glamorous. She has been a resident of Manhattan, New York since 1970. Subscribe for free:Stitcher|Apple Podcasts|Google Play, 2023 The Paris Review. The idea of writing something without publishing it is too horrifying to me. They had very good writers, but they were these old, stout white men. During the time that I read poetry, because I was such a wonderful reader of it, people who actually had a legitimate interest in poetry would hear me and ask me to send it to them because they thought it was good. movie. Her early fiction, much of which also appeared in that magazine, was collected in At the Bottom of the River (1983), a book that, like her Talk stories, announced her themes, her style, the uncanny purity of her prose. He was the only person who took me seriously enough to ban me. AIDS completely changed American culture. High Times: Tell me about your books before Metropolitan Life? Interview still frame courtesy of Stephanie Black. Id like to be the admissions director of New York. One is that deers are rats. The good thing about being in someone elses apartment is its so much easier to leave than it is to get someone out. But, I mean, no one talked about money. They were terrible. I saw the only job that was worse than writing. The Broad Stage presents An Evening with Fran Lebowitz, star of the recent Netflix series Pretend it's a City directed by Martin Scorsese. The day my grounding was up and I was going to be allowed to go out on Saturday I got the flu and was sick for two weeks. Everybody else was. After he described his husband's final day, terminally ill and surrounded by their four poodles, I said, "That's so special. I Cover the Waterfront is a 1933 American Pre-Code romantic drama film directed by James Cruze and starring Ben Lyon, Claudette Colbert, Ernest Torrence, and Hobart Cavanaugh.. Based on the book, by Max Miller, a reporter for the San Diego Sun, the film is about a reporter who investigates a waterfront smuggling operation, and becomes romantically involved with the daughter of the man he is . Fran Lebowitz, ca. Lebowitz's rise to fame began around 1972, when Andy Warhol hired her for Interview magazine to write reviews of bad movies before she expanded into cultural criticism in her column, "I Cover the Waterfront." She released two well-received collections of essays, Metropolitan Life (1978), followed by Social Studies (1981). When I started writing Talk pieces at The New Yorker, I tried to get away from the anonymous we they used. Id read five or six each time I went on. I wrote a musical comedy for my grandparents 35th wedding anniversary. Go back. I think that would solve both problems. Who hasnt typed for me in a long time? I could probably get a secretary for what I spend getting my friends to type for me. I had always heard that Jeb Bush was the smart one. I mean, New Yorks not exactly antiseptic. I believe Im a great friend. By Kate Mossman Enough time has passed, Fran Lebowitz thinks, to admit she went to a birthday party on 9/11. I hated the we. I wrote an editorial about the matron and got kicked off the paper. The years have gone by, but she is still tall. High Times: Tell me about your writing habits. LEBOWITZ: Im following it, but in a way, I also feel the way I feel about the Kardashians: I feel like its following me. Theres an out-loud laugh (or more) on every page, as well as many passages destined for the quotation dictionaries, and the best epigrams written since the invention of television. It would be as if the letters were sitting there, or the words, smoking cigarettes, staring at you, as if to say, Well? And I said, Well, I dont really care. Then I moved here. My favorite thing to do is to call another writer who has a deadline, because they will stay on the phone with you. But to this day I have never seen a worse movie. FRAN LEBOWITZ: The blood pressure or the air pressure? CLEMENTE: You were not good at math in school? They told you what to write. I dont think I was still writing for Interview, but once you go outside your natural audience, there are tons of people that dont like you. And sometimes I went on at ten oclock in the morning and read to the guy sweeping up from the night before. I still have the clothes I bought at Bonwit Teller. I met one who used to go to Kennedy Airport, to the terminals where people were coming from Florida, and there were a lot of Puerto Ricans who had never been to New York; he used to have a bathroom scale in the taxi, and he would tell these Puerto Ricans that in this country taxi rates were by weight and that it was a quarter a pound or something like that. Then I moved to New York and switched to exotic foreign brands. I wrote it in a loose-leaf notebook in pencil. I read How to Be a Naked Bus Driver and My Brother Was an Only Child. . Frances Ann Lebowitz ( / libwts /; [1] born October 27, 1950) is an American author, [2] public speaker, [3] [4] and occasional actor. High Times: Were you a behavior problem in school? The show dives into conversations between New Yorkers Fran Lebowitz and Martin Scorcese, and it's like being within earshot of a candid, captivating dinner party convo that you can't help but tune into. At twenty-one, she began a column called "I Cover the Waterfront," for Andy Warhol's Interview magazine. But after a while Fran outgrew the bad-flick format. Fran Lebowitz is a world treasure. LEBOWITZ: It may just be the offers Ive had, but generally, I think theres just more to say no to. Just one day the headmaster woke up and thought. I like Family Circle, Ladies Home Journal, anything with recipes that use marshmallows and American cheese in the same dish. In person and on the page, Kincaids is a literary voice. Lebowitz: I dont really remember it. I was mesmerized by The Modern Farmer. See, then, if you had no money, you had a horrible apartment. American International made so many great movies that theyve all melted in my mind into one great A.I.P. The New York Times, especially at that time, was gigantic. Lebowitz: Ill never make it as a typist. Im only afraid when I write. One of the other ones was a Manson-type film, a hippie death cult. Fran Lebowitz, ace epigrammatist, is further a first-rate conversationalist, a hall-of-fame bibliomaniac, a chronic self-caricaturist, a gal-about-town, the soul of the city, a snappish social . The first people who died of AIDS were artists. At the foot of his driveway in California, Jack Douglas had a sign that said Have you called these people? I also thought Oscar Levant was hilarious. Why did your family send you to America? I also went through a period of watching Name That Tune. I remember I got $500 for it. The Modern Farmer came on before Sunrise Semester, and it was about farming. Now youd have to have a zillion dollars to live there. Or acceptance or understanding. And then they would get it, and I would get these polite little letters back rejecting it. I like Thurber. A sense of, Im all alone in the world, and I have integrity. I had been spending all of my time with drug-addict college students. She was a hot little number in 1978 . A childrens book, Annie, Gwen, Lilly, Pam and Tulip, came out in 1986. It was originally built as a sailors rooming house, because its very close to the river. I get rid of the ones that I can bear to give up or never wanted to begin with. CLEMENTE: One of my favorite things that you ever published was something that came out at the height of the AIDS epidemic, when the amount of nonsensical, prejudiced, ridiculous things being said was really extraordinary, and you came up with a few paragraphs that really nailed the situation. She takes one. But at a certain point, you hit your limit, and thats it. A brief follow-up conversation took place over the phone to Lebowitz, who had decamped to Princeton, New Jersey, where she was renting the house of a noted architect and sometime furniture designer. . After addressing her reaction to the Mueller . I think there should be an oldies TV station like theres an oldies radio station, with Dobie Gillis and Life of Riley and all those great shows. They were also the most interesting people. This conversation began at a public event at the 92nd Street Y in 2013, and was picked up again in her Vermont kitchen eight years later, in the summer of 2021, when the social restrictions of the pandemic had, for a time, eased. The other day I read that last year 58 million tourists came to New York where a puny eight million people are trying to live. I also wrote plays for my cousins to perform at various family gatherings. "If you can eat it, it's not art. In conversation with Interview pal Francesco Clemente, Lebowitz here lays out her tongue-in-cheek platform for a mayoral run, declares the Donalds run done, and explains why New York is the greatest place in the world. 246, Rachel Cusk and Sheila Heti discuss how writing her first novel helped Cusk discover her shape or identity or essence. Next, Allan Gurganuss reading of his story It Had Wings, about an arthritic woman who finds a fallen angel in her backyard, is interspersed with a version of the story rendered as a one-woman opera by the composer Bruce Saylor. I would have gotten a scholarship. FRAN LEBOWITZ. - Booklet on 'New York's Underground' - Large . Once I wrote a column for Interview called Send This Girl to Camp where I set myself up as some sort of fresh-air-fund child and announced that I wanted to go to camp: I invented a camp called Camp Sensibility and asked people for contributions to send me there. Woke up and thought the offers Ive had a book called the before. 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