In mid 2007, I had extensive contact with Detective Constable Paul Rogers of the London Metropolitan Police. What a big moment in this case! Posted by 8 minutes ago. Only by comparing D.N.A. Regards. Also, it was near a Japanese plantation and the workers may have possibly assaulted her and the cigarette butts, bread and sweet wrappers may have come from the plantation. A team of crime experts have re-investigated the brutal killing 74 years ago and uncovered what they believe to be firm new leads in the search for who killed her, Get the latest court and crime news from WalesOnline. Find records of Muriel Drinkwater . Despite their inve. Even though Jones died in 1971, his male descendants DNA could be tested to determine if he was the culprit responsible for Muriels murder. Im not sure how much of a farming business the family had or if they just casually sold eggs like many people in the country do. will do what you suggest. She was last seen at 2:30 p.m., singing as she headed for the one-mile walk to her family's home, Tyle-Du Farm. It doesnt take much working out who the unnamed source with South Wales Police was! Something went wrong, please try again later. Her blue coat, underwear and school uniform had been wrapped in a paper bag and stored. "We realise whoever did this might be dead, but if he is alive and in his 80s or even 90s we would like to see him behind bars," said Muriel's great-niece Claire Phillips, speaking about developments last October. She was pulled from that path into the woodland beside it, attacked and murdered amongst the undergrowth of Penllergaer Woods, near Swansea, just yards from safety. Video, 00:00:36, Tears of relief after man found in Amazon jungle, At the crash site of 'no hope' - BBC reporter in Greece. Click here to hear the Audio File of this case. On the back of the coat, a no-longer-visible semen stain was circled with yellow crayon. Published: 08:03 EST, 1 May 2019 | Updated: 13:00 EST, 1 May 2019. The 12 year old loved to sing and there was a skip in her step as she started on the winding path through the forest. Video, 00:01:20WATCH: Key moments from PM's NI Brexit deal speech, EU Chief on NI deal: 'We were honest with each other' Video, 00:00:36EU Chief on NI deal: 'We were honest with each other', The 'smart suit' that is changing children's lives. Swansea 12-year-old Muriel Drinkwater, who was shot after being sexually assaulted in 1946, Officers searching the farmland in the days after the murder, Muriel's schoolmates with flowers for her grave, A picture of the gun police believe was used, Harold Jones, a convicted child killer who was also a suspect in Muriel's killing, Ronnie Harries, the last man to be sentenced to death in Carmarthen, The book that was found in a charity shop. The police think that Hoyles, who as mentioned above passed Muriel on her way home, encountered Muriels killer weeks before her death. Yet, despite their exhaustive enquiries - not to mention the discovery of the gun used in Muriel's shooting - the culprit managed to evade justice. The comments below have not been moderated. As always you can unsubscribe at any time. South Wales Police detectives requested the original case file from Kent Police to determine if there was a connection. 4th daughter born to Lilian and Charles Herbert Irvine in Liverpool. The police have DNA but keep any results they may have a closely guarded secret. I personally think it was someone still in the area from the Second World war. But in 2003, when the case was reopened for review, forensics experts had a major breakthrough when they found a semen stain on Muriel's coat. The authorities went as far as to suggest that someone in the Penllergaer region knows about the murder weapon but is protecting the owner by withholding information. Update: I have left it two weeks for the . Detective Chief Inspector Mark Lewis, head of the Specialist Crime Review Unit said: 'The results of the forensic examination categorically confirm that Jones was not responsible for the murder of Muriel Drinkwater. This post deals with sexual assault and might be triggering for some readers. I could never hurt anyone or anything, but in a small, close-knit community, people talk and I knew that in the eyes of some people I was the murderer. Nevertheless, the FBI was called in to assist with determining the ownership of the murder weapon, but nothing seems to have ever transpired from this lead. Hi Neil. Psychic Diane Lazarus Investigates Muriel Drinkwater Murder - YouTube 0:00 / 21:56 Sign in to confirm your age This video may be inappropriate for some users. A village-wide search was swiftly underway, and at 4:30PM the following day Muriels body was located in a Japanese larch plantation near her home. Muriel Joan Drinkwater was raped in Penllergaer Woods, beaten about the head with a blunt instrument and then shot with a World War I Colt 45 on 27 June 1946. An autopsy later determined that Muriel had been bludgeoned, raped, and shot twice in the chest. He stated he had long been suspected by some locals of being the murderer and was happy to clear his name. The case became known as the Little Red Riding Hood murder. Required fields are marked *. I have requested information regarding the cost of the re-investigation of Muriels murder since 2008. Birth: 16 Jan 1878: To see documentary google Dark Lands Muriel Drinkwater iplayer. There must be other victims of this person as I cant see him stopping. This will conclude a 10 year wait to see if Jones was indeed Muriels killer. Hi. [8] Scientists successfully retrieved a DNA profile from this stain. Interesting case Christine. She goes to grammar school. Thanks again ~ Christine, Your email address will not be published. Her name was written in copper plate, Muriel J Drinkwater, and they were examined by the forensic expert who did some incredible work for us, and was able to find this full crime stain on the back of Muriel's little school mac. The murder of Muriel Drinkwater is an unsolved 1946 child murder case from Wales. "South Wales Police has had considerable success with cold case reviews being one of the first forces in the country to set up a review team in 1999 to conduct cold case reviews. Her killer has never been caught and it remains among the most notorious unsolved murders in Welsh history you can read more of them here. I think it will be at least 3 months before anything definite will be announced. We are no longer accepting comments on this article. Learn more about managing a memorial . There was another murder in 1943. Two other specific persons of interest have been put forward. More here: https://bit.ly/WoodlawnJaneDoe. Or by navigating to the user icon in the top right. [3] In 2008, a DNA profile of the suspect was extracted from her clothes, possibly the oldest sample in the world to be successfully extracted in a murder investigation. Muriel was murdered 16 years before I was born, but it was a story I had heard from a young age. Muriel Drinkwater Muriel Drinkwater (born 1906) Jump to: Bio graphy Family Photos Comments Obit uary. [9] Detectives from Scotland Yard came to Swansea to assist in the investigation. She was buried at St David's Church in Penllergaer. 12 year old Muriel Drinkwater had only a mile to travel from the South Wales village of Penllergaer to the farm she lived on with her family. Dubbed the 'Little Red Riding Hood murder', the. Vote. Moments before being brutally attacked, 12-year-old Muriel Drinkwater had waved to her mother, who stood at the kitchen window, as she made her way home from Gowerton High School along the long path that led to the family home. [12][13], For more than a decade, Welsh true crime author Neil Milkins theorised that notorious child murderer Harold Jones (19061971) was responsible for the murders of both Martin and Drinkwater. In fact, it was recently used to identifyJoseph James DeAngelo, the suspected Golden State Killer who is thought to be responsible for at least a dozen murders and 50 rapes in the 1970s and 1980s in the United States. We got a partial profile, given that it was the oldest cold case with a semen stain on it that we had been working on.". Investigators now allege theyve identified her murderer. The gun was described as aColt 45 American army issue automatic pistol, first issued for World War I but probably also used in World War II, which significantly had the original wooden stocks next to the grip modernised with perspex.. Why? Neil Milkins. On June 27, 1946, 12-year-old Muriel made her way home from school in Penllergaer, Swansea (UK). Adding: Please may I make a comment that the information that I request would be available via computer in an instant. I really appreciate your local insights. In the days and weeks that followed Muriel's murder, police officers visited every farmhouse and cottage within 150 square miles, along with interviewing 20,000 men in Swansea, Aberdare and Carmarthenshire. A US Army Colt .45 service revolver was used to shoot Muriel Drinkwater, 12, in the chest, after her killer had beaten and raped her. I guess a DNA test of Sheila Martin must have been taken to see if it was the same person. Police records from the time show that Muriel's mother was the last person to see her alive. The Photo Request has been fulfilled. Murder of 12-year-old Muriel Drinkwater in 1946 is being probed 73 years later Police thought a stain on Muriel's coat would link death to Harold Jones But they have now confirmed a test. She may or may NOT have been Jones biological daughter. Now cutting-edge forensics to rival any TV thriller have identified her killers DNA Daily Mail article, Unsolved: The Little Red Riding Hood murder Sword and Scale article, Muriel Drinkwater murder file is declared secret at request of police The Sunday Times article. The murder of Muriel Drinkwater ,[2] also known as the Little Red Riding Hood murder, is an unsolved 1946 child murder case from Wales. Ms Drinkwater was seen by her mother in the distance. First he lived in Fulham with a former London Metropolitan Police officer John Widdows and his daughter Muriel whom he married in 1948. The gym is tucked away in an unsuspecting industrial estate in the Swansea Valley and is run by a world-champion strongman who wants as many people as possible to feel included in his beloved sport. This means that we may include adverts from us and third parties based on our knowledge of you. As manager of this memorial you can add or update the memorial using the Edit button below. ~ Christine. Thank you once again and I wish you every success with your forthcoming publication. There is no doubt about that.". Jones killed two young girls when he was just 15 and was jailed for 20 years. Her mother seen her approaching 400 yards away, so perhaps she was a selected victim. The crime scene is a short distance from the farmhouse. Only the exhumation of Jones body or D.N.A. DNA was taken from the relatives of both Muriel and Ronnie Harries but the results have not been made public. Thank you for the update. It is now more than 70 years since the 12-year-old schoolgirl was brutally raped, battered around the head . If you have any new information I would be extremely interested to hear it! Muriel Drinkwater was raped and shot dead as she walked home from a school bus in Penllergaer, Swansea, Serial killer Harold Jones (pictured as a 15-year-old) killed two young girls when he was just 15 and was jailed for 20 years. Muriel N Drinkwater (born Maker) was born on month day 1903, at birth place, to Thomas L Maker and Margaret L Maker (born Baum). If information comes in from the public or other forces we act on it. [6] On 27 June 1946, Muriel took the school bus home from Gowerton Grammar School. And no idea and Japanese workers. Detectives to revisit unsolved murder. We use your sign-up to provide content in the ways you've consented to and improve our understanding of you. South Wales Police said: "All historic murder cases, often referred to in the media as cold cases, are allocated to the Specialist Crime Review Unit and remain under active consideration and will be subject of re-investigation as and when new information is received or when there are advances in forensic science. Muriels nieces family took the books to the bookshop after Muriels brother-in-law died last year. 0, Hi Tracey Thanks for reading and for sharing your thoughts on Muriels case. [11] Hoyles, who saw Drinkwater after buying eggs at her parents' farm, was cleared by the DNA evidence. Sadly though, this has proved not to be. programme called Crime Secrets presented by H.T.Vs Jonathan Hill. 2023 BBC. Enter your email address to receive our monthly newsletter and to be notified about new posts. Talk about a case hitting close to home for you! They have a suspect in the murder case and a cousin of the suspect has given D.N.A to prove whether or not the cousin Ron Harries was the killer. Muriel Joan Drinkwater was the youngest of four daughters born to John Percival and Margaret ( ne Morgans) Drinkwater. If you have any information about Muriels murder, please contact the South Wales Policevia email at[emailprotected], Mystery of 1946 murder in woods BBC News article, The real waking the dead: This schoolgirls savage murder has mystified police for 62 years. Read about our approach to external linking. "That sounds pompous, but I knew that really he was a simpleton, but I didn't detect any menace in him.". Heres hoping one day soon Muriel gets some semblance of justice. Paul.. Victor told me that he had seen a T.V. Police confirmed a cold case review on the stain found on Muriel's coat in 1946 had now been tested by forensics teams. Close. She had been attacked on the lane and then she was dragged to where the body was left.". For decades, a key person of interest in Muriels murder has been Hubert Hoyles. All Rights Reserved. He also fixates on the fact that he is married to a younger woman, that she is five years younger than him, that she started going out with him when she was still in school. Jones D.N.A was not compared to the D.N.A left on Muriels coat by the killer. Video, 00:01:20, WATCH: Key moments from PM's NI Brexit deal speech, EU Chief on NI deal: 'We were honest with each other' Video, 00:00:36, EU Chief on NI deal: 'We were honest with each other', The 'smart suit' that is changing children's lives. A 73-year-old sample semen has conclusively disproved the theory Harold Jones was the killer of 12-year-old schoolgirl Muriel Drinkwater, Get the latest court and crime news from WalesOnline. Muriel, who lived on Tyle-Du farm at Penllergaer, near Swansea, went missing on Thursday, June 27th, 1946, and her body was found next day in Penllergaer woods. But he was later released and served in World War II before his military career ended in 1946. Read about our approach to external linking. People had forgotten it was there. Video, 00:02:36Who killed 'Little Red Riding Hood'? Hi James. Muriels niece Margaret is desperate to get the books back. profiling cleared Hubert who stated he had long been suspected by some locals of being the murderer and was happy to clear his name.). If information comes in from the public or other forces we act on it. The path she walked home on curved in and out of the woods; her mother saw her walking home along the path and into the woods, but not come out again. "The farm was a painful place for my grandparents to be," said Martin, who still keeps a little battleship toy that Muriel had given him. 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